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    <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:23:41 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Juggling Chat] Re: How ling did 5 cascade take you?</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?24,14142,14675#msg-14675</link>
      <author>flurpy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thanks for pointers Peter.

Thing is I don't know anyone that can juggle anything more than 3b cascade for maybe 10 throws, never mind 5ballers.  There is no juggling clubs where I live. (worcester, South africa)

I taught myself from the internet.

I'm getting better, with a solid 6 throws, but progress is very slow.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:23:41 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] 5K WR ATTEMPT</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14660,14660#msg-14660</link>
      <author>WATCHOUT</author>
      <description><![CDATA[this summer at an undisclosed location and time on the track. listen up for results]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 19:25:21 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[2008 IJA Festival] Re: Festival attendance</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?41,13765,14648#msg-14648</link>
      <author>David Davis</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info Madelyn.

By my calculation that is down by at least 13% from last year (which means the festival may lose money). Does anyone know if this count includes &quot;comp'd&quot; attendees?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:25:18 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: Halfmarathon worldrecord?</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14405,14616#msg-14616</link>
      <author>Perry</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I'm willing to give you credit for the World Record.  I've seen how fast you can joggle.   We don't really need Guinness right?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:50:36 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Juggling Chat] Re: history of rola bola</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?24,14558,14609#msg-14609</link>
      <author>Jim Maxwell</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Jim: On the selfsame page I sent you in my last note (http://www.darrenruby.com/haag_history_details.htm), where I found a 1969 reference to &quot;rola bola,&quot; I overlooked a slightly earlier reference (further up on the page) to &quot;Balancing on a short plank on a cylinder.&quot; This reference comes from the show description of the 7th Annual Elf Khurafeh Shrine Circus, which is undated but is placed between two other shows dating from 1962.
   Given that the 1962 reference omits the term &quot;rola bola&quot; and the 1969 reference includes it, I'd guess that places the coining of the term between '62 and '69. If so, the term itself isn't older than the Bongo Board (1953).
   I haven't found a description of the plank-and-cylinder balance act that predates 1962, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be much older. I have to think as soon as small lengths of pipe became available, presumably early in the Age of Steam, somebody somewhere must have tried laying a plank across a pipe and climbing aboard.

-- Allen Varney]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:16:42 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: Halfmarathon worldrecord?</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14405,14587#msg-14587</link>
      <author>Michal Kapral</author>
      <description><![CDATA[My half split in Toronto last year was 1:24:01. I'm not sure if Guinness has a half-marathon record. I thought about submitting an inquiry, but never followed through on it.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 16:48:35 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: 5 km 5 Balls</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14470,14586#msg-14586</link>
      <author>Michal Kapral</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I've been working on my 5-ball joggling for about a year. It really exposes any flaws you have in your 5-ball pattern. I'm lucky to get 100m without a drop. Barry told me he doesn't drop too much, but stops every 100 or 200m to make sure there are no obstacles ahead. Incidendally, Barry also told me he has run a 6-ball 5K (he actually had to walk most of it because it was crowded). Billy Gillen did some 7-ball joggling in the late '80s, and is the only known joggler to do 5 balls for an entire marathon following the &quot;joggling every step of the way&quot; rule. It took him over seven hours, and he had to finish it in the dark, on the sidewalk, after the race course had officially shut down.

I haven't heard about a 5-ball mile, but that would be a great race to watch. 

Michal]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 16:44:02 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: 5 km 5 Balls</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14470,14569#msg-14569</link>
      <author>Perry</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Barry does tend to stop juggling during marathons when it gets too crowded or there are a lot of turns.  But I think at the Joggling competitions (don't know for sure) all the jogglers follow the rules of joggling.  That is no advancing without juggling.

I have personally only tried 5 ball joggling a few times.  I've done over 100 m without a drop but it's much harder.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 15:18:40 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: 5 km 5 Balls</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14470,14559#msg-14559</link>
      <author>Philippe</author>
      <description><![CDATA[lennyferman: I don’t know any mile 5-balls records. It would be very interesting…. Did you ever joggle a 5-balls-mile? 

This leads to my questions: 
1- Are here some 5-balls jogglers??? 
2- Do you have some personal records for different distances? 
3- What is your average d/km (drop per km)?  

I had a first real try last week and joggled about 200 m without drop. The big problem are the track-turns because you can’t really see what’s happening in front of you. 

So – to be honest – I have some problems to believe that Barry Goldmeier run the 5 km without stopping joggling and I would like to know if this is a real joggling-record or just a mix of joggling and running.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 00:17:53 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Juggling Chat] history of rola bola</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?24,14558,14558#msg-14558</link>
      <author>Jim Maxwell</author>
      <description><![CDATA[A friend asks:

&quot;When did rolla bollas originate?  Are they older than the Bongo Board, which was released in 1953?  Are they ancient? Can you cite a photo, drawing or description of a rolla bolla in an old online or print source?&quot;

There's a nice discription on Wikipedia, but no historical info.  Anybody have web or dead tree references?
Jim]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:26:33 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: 5 km 5 Balls</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14470,14542#msg-14542</link>
      <author>lennyferman</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Does anyone know what the 1 mile 5 ball jogggling record is?]]></description>
      <category>Joggling</category>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 10:52:02 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[2008 IJA Festival] auction</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?41,14540,14540#msg-14540</link>
      <author>Roger Montandon</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Is anyone in charge of the auction for the 2008 festival?]]></description>
      <category>2008 IJA Festival</category>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 19:54:31 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: 5 km 5 Balls</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14470,14529#msg-14529</link>
      <author>flurpy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I read this post thinking &quot;it's not that fast, I can go for it&quot;,
but i misread the bit about not being 3 balls but 5!

THAT IS IMPRESSIVE.

I'm battling on 5 balls no for about 2 months, and simply cannot get past 8 throws.

My 3ball juggling is coming along.  3 x 21k's, 2 x 10km, and 1 x 15km and that is only races done since feb.  (still too many drops though)]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 16:28:47 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: 5 km 5 Balls</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14470,14505#msg-14505</link>
      <author>Perry</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I believe Barry did that 5K time at one of the IJA Joggling events.  I don't have any more details.  

The only other info I can provide is that the number of drops he has during the marathon varies significantly depending on crowd, weather and course.  He also has to stop juggling at times too depending on the other runners.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:35:12 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] 5 km 5 Balls</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14470,14470#msg-14470</link>
      <author>Philiipe</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello jogglers,

I heard, that Barry Goldmeier run the 5 km 5 balls in 27:53. Is this right? Did he run on a 400 m track? I think it’s very difficult because you have to juggle very high and can't see the turns. Does someone know how many drops he had on those 5 km??? And finally: does someone know his average “drop per km” on an 10km or marathon with 5 balls?

Ciao,
Philippe]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:46:07 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: Joggling Tutorial</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,13914,14442#msg-14442</link>
      <author>Perry</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Lenny,

Maybe joggling will never go mainstream but I get a lot of great feedback on the joggler blog and am certain that it's inspired at least a few dozen new jogglers.

Yeah, we'll have to hang out after the races.  A 20 minute 5K is great!  I'll have to practice up for the races.  

Perry, 44]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:59:45 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: joggled my first 5K</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14240,14440#msg-14440</link>
      <author>Perry</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Tim,

Great work!  A 23:00 joggling is impressive.  I've had that same drop on occasion.  I don't like any drops during a race but having one right at the finish is embarrassing.  Just keep practicing and the drops tend to disappear.

Let me know about the next race you do as I'll report it on the joggling blog (http://justyouraveragejoggler.com)

Also, if you are ever interested in being interviewed about your joggling, let me know.  (thejoggler@gmail.com)

Perry, 44

P.S.  Lenny I'm all signed up and will see you at the joggling races in Kentucky!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:57:41 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: Halfmarathon worldrecord?</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14405,14439#msg-14439</link>
      <author>Perry</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Well, there is no Guinness World Record for it because no one has submitted.  If there were one, it would be held by either Michal or Zack probably around 1:25 which would be their half-way time for the full marathon record of 2:50

Perry, 44]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:54:37 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Halfmarathon worldrecord?</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14405,14405#msg-14405</link>
      <author>Philippe</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello jogglers !

wikipedia lists the joggling-worldrecords over several distances but nothing for the halfmarathon. Why? Is there no worldrecord? If there is, what is it? 

Perhaps someone here has the answer....

Ciao,
Philippe]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:47:20 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[2008 IJA Festival] Calling all workshop leaders</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?41,14371,14371#msg-14371</link>
      <author>Chuck Hawley</author>
      <description><![CDATA[If you are interested in teaching a workshop at the festival in Lexington or if you have a workshop suggestion, please send me an email. Workshops are typically scheduled to be an hour long. Workshops are scheduled Tuesday though Saturday 9-5, trying not to conflict with competitions, games, or the annual meeting. Please include the following-

-Title of the workshop
-A brief description of your workshop (a sentence or two would be great)
-any special time or space requirements
-any possible scheduling issues

Chuck Hawley
workshops@juggle.org]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:27:47 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Festival Room/Ride Sharing] Down for most any festival especially the big ones I have room if you have ride...</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?39,14290,14290#msg-14290</link>
      <author>Dom</author>
      <description><![CDATA[My name is Dom I'm a 21 year old college student and wants to travel the countryside a bit and go to festies as much as possible. I especially would like to go to wakarusa. Will chip in for gas.]]></description>
      <category>Festival Room/Ride Sharing</category>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:55:34 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Juggling Chat] Re: How ling did 5 cascade take you?</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?24,14142,14278#msg-14278</link>
      <author>Peter Webb</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I learned to juggle out of juggling for the complete klutz when I was maybe 13 years old (I'm 18 now). I didn't really work solid, but after a year or so I could juggle 4 balls. After that I tried working on 5 for a while but I ended up giving it up in favor of yoyoing, penspinning, and other non-toss juggling manipulations. I didn't really start up again until last summer when I found out that there was a local juggling club. I successfully flashed 5 balls my first day there and it wasn't long after that I got my first qualify.
If you are not already going to a club, I suggest you look for one on the juggling db. That's how I found mine. You will get so much good out of going to a club, you wouldn't believe it.
As for giving up, I certainly can't suggest that. If you have other priorities and you have to (or choose to) brush juggling to the side in favor of something else, that's one thing. But don't settle for less than what you can do. I have confidence that if you put in the work (and let a few 5 ballers see you so they can tell you what you're doing), you will reap the reward in the end. I wish you the best of luck, and the steady growth of your skill. Have fun
Peter]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:36:36 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[2008 IJA Festival] Re: Festival attendance</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?41,13765,14276#msg-14276</link>
      <author>Madelyn</author>
      <description><![CDATA[There's a registration counter on the main festival page. As of about three minutes before this post goes up, it was at 255. 

Keep juggling!

Madelyn Dinnerstein
Pittsburgh, PA, USA]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:23:19 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[2008 IJA Festival] Re: Festival attendance</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?41,13765,14267#msg-14267</link>
      <author>David Davis</author>
      <description><![CDATA[David Davis Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
&gt; What is the expected (budgeted) turnout?


hmmm .... a month and a half without an answer ... what does that mean?

Here is a second question you can not answer: what were the early pre-registration numbers now that we are past the cutoff?]]></description>
      <category>2008 IJA Festival</category>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:50:49 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Web Site Suggestions/Problems/Corrections] Re: banner thumbnails</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?7,14259,14260#msg-14260</link>
      <author>David Landowne</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thanks Pete,

I was trying to correct the formatting.  I guess I tripped up something else.  I'll look into it.

It's fixed now.

David]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:27:53 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Web Site Suggestions/Problems/Corrections] banner thumbnails</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?7,14259,14259#msg-14259</link>
      <author>Pete Brovold</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The thumbnail pictures in the banner on the gallery page link to the wrong photos. At least they do on my os x mac today.]]></description>
      <category>Web Site Suggestions/Problems/Corrections</category>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:39:21 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Web Site Suggestions/Problems/Corrections] Re: Forum lag</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?7,14173,14255#msg-14255</link>
      <author>Martin E Frost</author>
      <description><![CDATA[And an admission of a major error in analysis by the University of Colorado:

http://systems.cs.colorado.edu/mediawiki/index.php/Broadband_Network_Management]]></description>
      <category>Web Site Suggestions/Problems/Corrections</category>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:20:43 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: joggled my first 5K</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14240,14251#msg-14251</link>
      <author>Tim</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thanks Lenny.  Next time hopefully I can go dropless.

Not going to IJA.

I don't personally know any other jogglers in California, or in any other state.  
I'm will joggle some more races, keeping my eyes open for other jogglers!

TIM]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:10:13 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: Joggling Tutorial</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,13914,14250#msg-14250</link>
      <author>Lenny Ferman</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Perry,

It will be great to meet you.  We'll have to get together after the joggling races.

I haven't decided which events to focus on yet. I'm just coming back from a running injury that kept me sidelined for most of this year.  But I was able to joggle a no drop 5k in 20 minutes last week.  

I really wish I could get more people interested in Joggling, but I've been striking out down here in JAX, FL.  I even offered to do a free juggling/joggliing clinic for our local track club, and I was turned down!

Lenny]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:56:12 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Joggling] Re: joggled my first 5K</title>
      <link>http://www.juggle.org/forum/read.php?16,14240,14249#msg-14249</link>
      <author>Lenny Ferman</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Glad to hear you ran your first 5k!

One of the facts of joggling is that when you speed up, the balls that are already in the air do not speed up.  So you must accelerate gradually when you are joggling.

I've made that same mistake myself.

Are you going to IJA?

Is there any interest in Joggling in CA?  I live in Jacksonville, FL and I am striking out trying to get the running to community or the juggling community to consider the greatest sport in the world:  Joggling.  It's really their loss.  But I'll keep trying.

Lenny Ferman]]></description>
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